Diario del proyecto iNaturalist Mammal Working Group

If a Taxon Framework has a source and covers downstream taxa, then it can have Taxon Framework Relationships. These taxon framework relationships are created and edited by iNat curators and describe the mapping between internal taxa on iNaturalist and the external taxa in the reference.

How to set them up

Imagine we have an Taxon Framework sourced to an external reference with three external taxa. Meanwhile, there are 5 internal taxa on iNaturalist covered by the Taxon Framework.

The next step is to account for the external taxa by wiring them up to the external taxa with Taxon Framework Relationships. This can be automated to some extent, but to do it correctly, things need to be manually inspected an curated.

If the name, rank, parent name, and parent rank of the internal and external taxa are the same, iNaturalist will consider these a ‘Match’ (actually as long as the external taxon parent is an ancestor of the internal taxon it will count as a match) by creating a Taxon Framework Relationship connecting the taxa. Anything internal taxa covered by the taxon framework without a Taxon Framework Relationship are considered ‘Relationship unknowns’.

Unfortunately, to properly map these taxa, curators need to inspect these relationship unknown taxa and ideally either remove them (via a Taxon Change) or accomodate them with Deviations from the reference. Deviations are Taxon Framework Relationships other than Match. For example, if iNaturalist differs from the reference by splitting T. sierrae off from T. torosa, then a the Match Taxon Framework Relationship of T. torosa is misspecified since these taxa mean different things externally (sensu lato) and internally (sensu stricto). This Taxon Framework Relationship should be modified to include T. sierrae as a ‘one-to-many’. If T. novous is a ‘wholly new taxon’ (ie one that doesn’t influence what we mean by sister taxa) that is not in the reference but we wish to include in iNaturalist, then a ‘Not external’ Taxon Framework Relationship should be made. Deviations should include notes describing why the Deviation is necessary including any links to relevant flags.

A well curated Taxon Framework should have all taxa properly mapped to the External Reference. That is to say, there should be no internal taxa with unknown relationships.

There's a link to 'Relationship unknown' taxa from the taxonomy details page of any taxa defining a Taxon Framework. For example, there are many thousands for vascular plants. At the time of this writing, the rodent Marmota kastschenkoi had an unknown relationship.

A little research reveals that Marmota kastschenkoi was previously considered a subspecies Marmota baibacina kastschenkoi and comprises the northern populations of Marmota baibacina 'sensu lato' (ie 'in the broad sense') .

Its clear that by Marmota baibacina, iNaturalist intends to means this broader 'sensu lato' concept that includes M. kastschenkoi. This is evident by inspecting the distribution (e.g. observations, taxon range map, atlas etc.) and also the taxonomy itself (e.g. Marmota baibacina kastschenkoi exists as a ssp of Marmota baibacina). This means that both the 'not internal' Taxon Framework Relationship for Marmota kastschenkoi and also the 'match' Taxon Framework Relationship for Marmota baibacina (since one is 'sensu lato' and one is in the narrow sense: 'sensu stricto' ) are misspecified.

The former should be deleted, and the latter should be expanded from a 'match' to a 'many to one' by editing the Taxon Framework Relationship and adding Marmota kastschenkoi as an additional 'external taxon'

There are cases when 'not internal' and 'not external' deviations are legitimate. They are used for obscure nodes (e.g. tribes) or ranks (e.g. hybrids) that might be missing from either iNaturalist or the external sources by design. But they also should be used for species 'wholly new to science'.

For example Svensson et al., 2013 describe a new galago from Angola. This species is sympatric with its closest relatives (G. thomasi and G. demidovii) and is much larger. This distinction between "a change in views of what a species is, that is, dependent on which species concept is adopted" and species "wholly new to science" is often blurry. When its not a clearcut case of the former, discerning when it is indeed the latter from the literature can be aggravating. This is made worse by the fact that journal articles tend to try to hype the 'new species discovery' parts of their paper for greater impact even if they are just reshuffling species. There's some nice text on the distinction in Svensson et al., 2013:

"Most new primate species recognized in the 21st century are the result of the taxonomic elevation of previously known subspecies to species (Groves, 2001; Macaca spp.: Kitchener & Groves, 2002; Aotus spp.: Defler & Bueno, 2007; Nomascus spp.: Thinh, Mootnick, Thanh, Nadler, & Roos, 2010; Microcebus spp.: Hotaling et al., 2016). Taxa wholly new to science, however, are also being described (e.g., Rungwecebus kipunji: Davenport et al., 2006; Jones et al., 2005; Tarsius tumpara: Shekelle, Groves, Merker, & Supriatna, 2008; Rhinopithecus strykeri: Geissmann et al., 2010; Nycticebus kayan: Munds et al., 2013)." Legitamite 'non-internal' Taxon Framework Relationships should include information on why the taxon is 'wholly new' and doesn't risk impacting neighbors (e.g. for Galagoides kumbirensis)

For iNaturalist's purposes. this distinction is important to the extent that we can:
1) avoid changes in the interpretation of past identifications
2) avoid associated meta-data with taxa (distribution information, default taxon photos, names etc.) from becoming misspecified

For example, in the Marmota kastschenkoi case, if we failed to alter the Taxon Relationship Framework mapping from 'non internal' to a 'many-to-one' relationship involving Marmota baibacina, then the proper coarse of action for adding Marmota kastschenkoi would be to create a new taxon. This would mean that the existing taxon range and atlas for Marmota baibacina would become misspecified (since they would continue being 'sensu lato' but the existence of Marmota kastschenkoi as a sibling would change the interpretation to 'sensu stricto'). Similarly, existing identifications of Marmota baibacina - which were intended to be interpreted as Marmota baibacina 'sensu lato' would start being interpreted as Marmota baibacina 'sensu stricto' and would result in the appearance of disagreements where none exist.

In contrast, by properly mapping Marmota kastschenkoi with a 'many-to-one' this would indicate that Marmota kastschenkoi should be added through a split and that additional work will be required to properly curate the distribution, identifications and explain to the community what the change means.

In the galago case, the new galago Galagoides kumbirensis can be simply added without any adverse impacts on its relatives.

Who can edit them?

Any taxon that is covered by a sourced Taxon Framework should have a Taxon Framework Relationship. Only curators can create, edit, or destroy Taxon Framework Relationships. If the Taxon Framework has Taxon Curators, only these taxon curators can create, edit or destroy them.

Good housekeeping of Taxon Framework Relationships

Generally, sourced Taxon Frameworks are initially populated through the back end of iNaturalist via a script that reads in the external taxa from the external reference and compares them to the internal iNaturalist taxa covered by the framework. The purpose of the script is to determine which species in iNaturalist aren't in the external reference (and vice versa) once all the deviations are taken into account. The script makes use of the Taxon Framework Relationships to do the mapping and will fail if there are issues with the Taxon Framework Relationships. Therefore its very important that curators take care when creating/editing/destroying Taxon Framework Relationships. Please do not leave loose ends around. For example, in curating Marmota kastschenkoi so that it is mapped through a many-to-one rather than a 'not internal' you need to do two steps (1) delete the 'not internal' Taxon Framework Relationship involving Marmota kastschenkoi and (2) edit the 'match' Taxon Framework Relationship involving Marmota baibacina by adding Marmota kastschenkoi to make it a 'many-to-one'. Just doing one of these two steps will corrupt the Taxon Framework Relationships.

Likewise, if you were to split Marmota baibacina (sensu lato) into Marmota baibacina (sensu stricto) and Marmota kastschenkoi, once the split is committed, remember your work is not done until you remove the many-to-one Taxon Framework Relationship on the inactive Marmota baibacina (sensu lato) and add new 'match' Taxon Framework Relationships to the outputs Marmota kastschenkoi and Marmota baibacina (sensu stricto).

Hi @bobby23 @jwidness, @jakob, @maxallen et al. - thanks for your help curating Mammal taxa and your patience as I've been getting the bugs out of some new Taxon Curator features.

Mammals on iNat are now relatively 'clean' in that what's on iNat still more or less follows IUCN, but the associated Taxon Frameworks are now mapped to MDD. All the IUCN taxon ranges and conservation statuses for mammals are imported and up to date. And I think we all agree that if we want to have the mammal taxonomy on iNaturalist evolve (by moving towards MDD or elsewhere) we should do a thorough curation job to ensure that we don't loose distribution data or otherwise corrupt/introduce misspecification into the taxonomy. Luckily, I think with the new Taxon Framework tools we can do that. The purpose of this post is to:

1) start a conversation about what taxonomy we should be aiming for. I know @jwidness and others are pushing for MDD while @jakob and others are pushing alternatives. Before we start curating taxa to move it in one direction or another, we need to agree on what taxonomy we are all aiming towards. I think having a Google Hangout meeting would be a nice place to have this discussion. Would someone be interested in taking the lead on organizing such a discussion (e.g. starting a doodle poll https://doodle.com/create)?

2) more training about how to use the new Taxon Framework tools and other tools for good curating housekeeping. I wrote a post on how to work with Taxon Framework Relationships: https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/inaturalist-mammal-working-group/journal/21192-how-to-work-with-taxon-framework-relationships @jwidness also made an awesome guide for curating Taxon Ranges here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LyavoWDxsZ5ObwjDDMbThoLZ3ZZf4_ciC2h19Vebyt0/edit

So we can start eliminating me as an unwilling bottle neck here, I added @bobby23 as a taxon curator for 'Rodents', @jwidness as a taxon curator for Shrews/Moles and @jakob as a taxon curator for bats (@maxallen I also just made you a curator - I suggest you get started with reading the curator guide and spend some time on mammal ssp which aren't covered by the taxon framework to get the hang of things). As for bobby, jakob and jane - this is just to learn how to use these tools at this point. Even though you now have permissions, please don't commit any taxon changes or otherwise alter the taxonomy until we have a chance to discuss (1 above).

For now, it would be great if you could read my post section about Marmota kastschenkoi and how curation was required to change the Taxon Framework Relationship from 'non-internal' to a 'many-to-many' with Marmota baibacina. You now have permissions to do these for your respective groups (rodents etc.). Please give it a try with a few of the non-internal Rodents, or non-internal Bats, or non-internal Shrews/Moles.

As I mention in the post, non-internal mappings should be rare. In most cases they need to be replaced with other deviations (one-to-one, many-to-one etc.) and in the rare cases where the non-internal mappings are legit, please explain your reasoning (e.g. for Galagoides kumbirensis). Please try to 'resolve' at least one or two of the non-internal mappings in your group by replacing them with more complex mappings or by adding an explanation for why non-internal is justified. Please let me know if you have any trouble or encounter any bugs. But also please be careful as all the kinks aren't worked out here and things can require alot of cleanup if the Taxon Framework Relationships get too screwed up. And a reminder - please don't actually change the taxa (e.g. taxon changes) until we have a chance to discuss (1) above.

Also thanks for being guinea pigs here. These tools are by no means perfect, but the best way to improve them and document them is to try them out. Many thanks for bearing with all the clunkyness.

Lastly, if any other folks than the ones mentioned here are interested in getting into this please give a shout. But remember, being a good curator/taxon curator on iNat has more to do with the time and interest in doing lots of tedious manipulation of records than it does actually being the world's expert in anything and its definitely not for everyone. Please make sure you really want to dig into these tedious and clunky interfaces before you commit to getting involved.

Thanks!

Scott

I just finished updating iNaturalist Mammal Taxonomy to the IUCN Global Mammal Assessment aside from the following 'explicit deviations' that we're currently making:

first, IUCN doesn't include 'domestic-only' species. But iNat has the following:
Equus caballus, Equus asinus, Canis familiaris, Felis catus, Bos taurus, Ovis aries, Capra hircus, Bubalus bubalis, Bos indicus, Lama glama, Vicugna pacos, Camelus dromedarius, Camelus bactrianus, Cavia porcellus

Also iNat has the following newly described species not yet in IUCN:
Monodelphis pinocchio, Monodelphis saci, Euroscaptor orlovi, Euroscaptor kuznetsovi, Gracilimus radix, Neusticomys vossi

The following are lumped in IUCN but split in iNat:

1. Sciurus vulgaris in lieu of iNat's Sciurus meridionalis, Sciurus vulgaris
2. Glaucomys sabrinus in lieu of iNat's Glaucomys sabrinus, Glaucomys oregonensis
3. Ictidomys mexicanus in lieu of iNat's Ictidomys mexicanus, Ictidomys parvidens
4. Otospermophilus beecheyi in lieu of iNat's Otospermophilus beecheyi, Otospermophilus atricapillus
5. Thomomys umbrinus in lieu of iNat's Thomomys umbrinus, Thomomys sheldoni, Thomomys atrovarius
6. Proechimys trinitatis in lieu of iNat's Proechimys urichi, Proechimys trinitatus
7. Proechimys guairae in lieu of iNat's Proechimys poliopus, Proechimys guairae
8. Clyomys laticeps in lieu of iNat's Clyomys bishopi, Clyomys laticeps
9. Trinomys setosus in lieu of iNat's Trinomys myosuros, Trinomys setosus
10. Lagidium viscacia in lieu of iNat's Lagidium peruanum, Lagidium viscacia
11. Dasyprocta leporina in lieu of iNat's Dasyprocta cristata, Dasyprocta leporina
12. Coendou quichua in lieu of iNat's Coendou rothschildi, Coendou quichua
13. Heterogeomys lanius in lieu of iNat's Orthogeomys lanius
14. Heterogeomys dariensis in lieu of iNat's Orthogeomys dariensis, Orthogeomys thaeleri
15. Heterogeomys cherriei in lieu of iNat's Orthogeomys matagalpae, Orthogeomys cherriei
16. Chaetodipus ammophilus in lieu of iNat's Chaetodipus dalquesti, Chaetodipus ammophilus
17. Dipodomys merriami in lieu of iNat's Dipodomys merriami, Dipodomys insularis, Dipodomys margaritae
18. Monodelphis glirina in lieu of iNat's Monodelphis maraxina, Monodelphis glirina
19. Monodelphis scalops in lieu of iNat's Monodelphis theresa, Monodelphis scalops
20. Monodelphis americana in lieu of iNat's Monodelphis rubida, Monodelphis americana, Monodelphis umbristriatus
21. Thylamys cinderella in lieu of iNat's Thylamys sponsorius, Thylamys cinderella
22. Chaetophractus vellerosus in lieu of iNat's Chaetophractus nationi, Chaetophractus vellerosus
23. Loxodonta africana in lieu of iNat's Loxodonta cyclotis, Loxodonta africana
24. Alces alces in lieu of iNat's Alces americanus, Alces alces
25. Sminthopsis fuliginosus in lieu of iNat's Sminthopsis fuliginosus, Sminthopsis aitkeni
26. Crocidura poensis in lieu of iNat's Crocidura fingui, Crocidura poensis
27. Sorex antinorii in lieu of iNat's Sorex arunchi, Sorex antinorii
28. Ochotona roylei in lieu of iNat's Ochotona roylei, Ochotona himalayana
29. Ochotona dauurica in lieu of iNat's Ochotona dauurica, Ochotona huangensis
30. Ochotona gloveri in lieu of iNat's Ochotona muliensis, Ochotona gloveri
31. Ochotona forresti in lieu of iNat's Ochotona forresti, Ochotona nigritia, Ochotona gaoligongensis

The following are split in IUCN vs lumped in iNat:

1. Urocitellus brunneus, Urocitellus endemicus in lieu of iNat's Urocitellus brunneus
2. Hylobates muelleri, Hylobates abbotti, Hylobates funereus in lieu of iNat's Hylobates muelleri
3. Lutreolina massoia, Lutreolina crassicaudata in lieu of iNat's Lutreolina crassicaudata
4. Marmosops caucae, Marmosops impavidus in lieu of iNat's Marmosops impavidus
5. Monodelphis peruviana, Monodelphis adusta in lieu of iNat's Monodelphis adusta
6. Ochotona pallasii, Ochotona opaca in lieu of iNat's Ochotona pallasi
7. Ochotona hyperborea, Ochotona coreana, Ochotona mantchurica in lieu of iNat's Ochotona hyperborea
8. Pithecia chrysocephala, Pithecia pithecia in lieu of iNat's Pithecia pithecia #IUCN wants to split P. pithecia into P. pithecia and P. chrysocephala, but currently have just added P. chrysocephala with no range
9. Cebus albifrons, Cebus cuscinus, Cebus aequatorialis, Cebus cesarae, Cebus malitiosus, Cebus versicolor in lieu of iNat's Cebus albifrons #IUCN wants to split C. albifrons into C. albifrons,cuscinus,aequatorialis,cesarae,malitiosus, & versicolor, but currently have just added the additional taxa with no ranges and not reassessed C. albifrons

1 to 1 swaps:

1. Cebus brunneus in lieu of iNat's Cebus olivaceus #IUCN wants to split C. olivaceus into C. brunneus & C. olivaceus but currently have just pulled C. olivaceus (sensu lato) and just added C. brunneus with no range
2. Pithecia milleri in lieu of iNat's Pithecia monachus #IUCN wants to split P. monachus into P. monachus,milleri,hirsuta,inusta,napensis,isabela, & cazuzai, but currently have just pulled P. monachus (sensu lato) and just added P. milleri with no range
3. Pithecia vanzolinii in lieu of iNat's Pithecia irrorata #IUCN wants to split P. irrorata into P. vanzolinii,rylandsi,mittermeieri, & pissinattii, but currently have just pulled P. irrorata (sensu lato) and just added P. vanzolinii with no range
4. Neotamias minimus in lieu of iNat's Tamias minimus
5. Neotamias merriami in lieu of iNat's Tamias merriami
6. Neotamias amoenus in lieu of iNat's Tamias amoenus
7. Neotamias townsendii in lieu of iNat's Tamias townsendii
8. Neotamias umbrinus in lieu of iNat's Tamias umbrinus
9. Neotamias dorsalis in lieu of iNat's Tamias dorsalis
10. Neotamias speciosus in lieu of iNat's Tamias speciosus
11. Neotamias sonomae in lieu of iNat's Tamias sonomae
12. Eutamias sibiricus in lieu of iNat's Tamias sibiricus
13. Neotamias quadrimaculatus in lieu of iNat's Tamias quadrimaculatus
14. Neotamias quadrivittatus in lieu of iNat's Tamias quadrivittatus
15. Neotamias panamintinus in lieu of iNat's Tamias panamintinus
16. Neotamias durangae in lieu of iNat's Tamias durangae
17. Neotamias siskiyou in lieu of iNat's Tamias siskiyou
18. Neotamias canipes in lieu of iNat's Tamias canipes
19. Neotamias bulleri in lieu of iNat's Tamias bulleri
20. Neotamias obscurus in lieu of iNat's Tamias obscurus
21. Neotamias rufus in lieu of iNat's Tamias rufus
22. Neotamias senex in lieu of iNat's Tamias senex
23. Neotamias ruficaudus in lieu of iNat's Tamias ruficaudus
24. Neotamias cinereicollis in lieu of iNat's Tamias cinereicollis
25. Neotamias alpinus in lieu of iNat's Tamias alpinus
26. Neotamias palmeri in lieu of iNat's Tamias palmeri
27. Neotamias ochrogenys in lieu of iNat's Tamias ochrogenys
28. Gyldenstolpia fronto in lieu of iNat's Kunsia fronto
29. Tanyuromys aphrastus in lieu of iNat's Sigmodontomys aphrastus
30. Otomys karoensis in lieu of iNat's Otomys saundersiae
31. Gerbillus mackilligini in lieu of iNat's Gerbillus mackillingini
32. Micaelamys namaquensis in lieu of iNat's Aethomys namaquensis
33. Micaelamys granti in lieu of iNat's Aethomys granti
34. Nannospalax ehrenbergi in lieu of iNat's Spalax ehrenbergi
35. Nannospalax leucodon in lieu of iNat's Spalax leucodon
36. Nannospalax xanthodon in lieu of iNat's Spalax nehringi
37. Toromys rhipidurus in lieu of iNat's Makalata rhipidura
38. Brassomys albidens in lieu of iNat's Coccymys albidens

These were mysteriously removed from IUCN for seemingly no good reason so I left them in (sometimes IUCN pulls an assessment while they're in the process of revising it):
Alouatta seniculus, Mico manicorensis, Cacajao melanocephalus, Cebus capucinus, Cercopithecus pogonias, Dipodomys ornatus

Lastly, bats is a total cluster @#$@ at the moment with the following IUCN bats not in iNat:
Dermanura anderseni, Dermanura azteca, Dermanura cinerea, Dermanura gnoma, Dermanura tolteca, Chaerephon aloysiisabaudiae, Chaerephon ansorgei, Chaerephon bemmeleni, Chaerephon bivittatus, Chaerephon bregullae, Chaerephon chapini, Chaerephon gallagheri, Chaerephon jobensis, Chaerephon johorensis, Chaerephon major, Chaerephon nigeriae, Chaerephon plicatus, Chaerephon pumilus, Chaerephon russatus, Chaerephon solomonis, Chaerephon tomensis, Diclidurus isabella, Hipposideros commersoni, Mops brachypterus, Mops condylurus, Mops congicus, Mops demonstrator, Mops midas, Mops mops, Mops nanulus, Mops niangarae, Mops niveiventer, Mops petersoni, Mops sarasinorum, Mops spurrelli, Mops thersites, Mops trevori, Hypsugo anthonyi, Pipistrellus hesperus, Hypsugo joffrei, Hypsugo kitcheneri, Hypsugo lophurus, Hypsugo macrotis, Pipistrellus subflavus, Rhogeessa alleni, Rousettus lanosus, Scotonycteris ophiodon, Austronomus australis, Mops leucostigma, Triaenops rufus, Neoromicia matroka, Nycticeinops schlieffeni, Hypsugo vordermanni, Lissonycteris angolensis, Hypsugo savii, Miniopterus africanus, Neoromicia brunnea, Neoromicia capensis, Neoromicia flavescens, Neoromicia guineensis, Neoromicia helios, Neoromicia melckorum, Neoromicia nana, Neoromicia rendalli, Neoromicia somalica, Neoromicia tenuipinnis, Neoromicia zuluensis, Austronomus kuboriensis, Natalus espiritosantensis, Dermanura rosenbergi, Neoromicia malagasyensis, Neoromicia robertsi, Neoromicia roseveari, Chaerephon atsinanana, Mops bakarii, Mormopterus lumsdenae, Mormopterus kitcheneri, Mormopterus halli, Mormopterus ridei, Mormopterus cobourgianus, Myotis nyctor, Rhinolophus xinanzhongguoensis, Dermanura glauca, Dermanura bogotensis, Dermanura phaeotis, Rhinolophus belligerator, Rhinolophus mcintyrei, Rhinolophus proconsulis, Rhinolophus tatar, Rhinolophus indorouxii, Rhinolophus microglobosus, Epomophorus minor, Scotophilus andrewreborii, Scotophilus ejetai, Scotophilus livingstonii, Scotophilus trujilloi, Murina bicolor, Murina gracilis, Murina recondita, Murina jaintiana, Murina pluvialis, Hypsugo bemainty, Otonycteris leucophaea, Myotis secundus, Myotis soror, Submyotodon latirostris, Myotis borneoensis, Myotis federatus, Myotis peytoni, Peropteryx pallidoptera, Cynomops milleri, Eumops wilsoni, Eumops nanus, Pteronotus mesoamericanus, Pteronotus rubiginosus, Molossus bondae, Promops davisoni, Chiroderma vizzotoi, Anoura cadenai, Artibeus schwartzi, Micronycteris buriri, Micronycteris giovanniae, Lophostoma occidentalis, Lonchophylla peracchii, Thyroptera wynneae, Eptesicus taddeii, Lasiurus salinae, Myotis diminutus, Myotis izecksohni, Myotis lavali, Rhogeessa bickhami, Rhogeessa menchuae, Rhogeessa velilla, Vampyrodes major, Sturnira burtonlimi, Sturnira koopmanhilli, Sturnira perla, Platyrrhinus incarum, Platyrrhinus angustirostris, Platyrrhinus aquilus, Platyrrhinus nitelinea, Neoromicia isabella, Dermanura watsoni

and the following iNat bats not in IUCN:
Pteropus pelewensis, Myotis phanluongi, Pipistrellus savii, Pipistrellus nanus, Pipistrellus rendalli, Pipistrellus capensis, Pipistrellus guineensis, Pipistrellus tenuipinnis, Pipistrellus brunneus, Pipistrellus zuluensis, Pipistrellus isabella, Pipistrellus somalicus, Pipistrellus roseveari, Pipistrellus stanleyi, Pipistrellus anthonyi, Eptesicus malagasyensis, Eptesicus matroka, Perimyotis subflavus, Parastrellus hesperus, Plecotus gaisleri, Pipistrellus lophurus, Pipistrellus kitcheneri, Pipistrellus joffrei, Pipistrellus macrotis, Pipistrellus vordermanni, Pipistrellus helios, Pipistrellus robertsi, Pipistrellus lanzai, Pipistrellus bemainty, Scotophilus alvenslebeni, Nycticeinops schlieffenii, Nyctophilus corbeni, Nyctophilus major, Glauconycteris atra, Tadarida australis, Tadarida pumila, Tadarida condylura, Tadarida nigeriae, Tadarida plicata, Tadarida thersites, Tadarida nanula, Tadarida jobensis, Tadarida ansorgei, Tadarida aloysiisabaudiae, Tadarida major, Tadarida demonstrator, Tadarida russata, Tadarida spurrelli, Tadarida bregullae, Tadarida leucostigma, Tadarida midas, Tadarida tomensis, Tadarida trevori, Tadarida chapini, Tadarida brachyptera, Tadarida bakarii, Baeodon alleni, Tadarida johorensis, Tadarida kuboriensis, Tadarida mops, Tadarida sarasinorum, Tadarida solomonis, Molossus barnesi, Harpiocephalus mordax, Tadarida bemmeleni, Tadarida bivittata, Tadarida congica, Tadarida gallagheri, Tadarida jobimena, Tadarida niangarae, Tadarida niveiventer, Tadarida petersoni, Tadarida atsinanana, Artibeus phaeotis, Artibeus watsoni, Artibeus aztecus, Artibeus toltecus, Miniopterus oceanensis, Artibeus cinereus, Natalus macrourus, Miniopterus mossambicus, Miniopterus fuliginosus, Miniopterus villiersi, Artibeus glaucus, Artibeus incomitatus, Artibeus rosenbergii, Lophostoma aequatorialis, Lophostoma yasuni, Artibeus anderseni, Sturnira thomasi, Artibeus gnomus, Pteropus yapensis, Pteropus argentatus, Pteropus brunneus, Diclidurus isabellus, Myonycteris angolensis, Stenonycteris lanosus, Scotonycteris bergmansi, Scotonycteris occidentalis, Casinycteris ophiodon, Dobsonia magna, Pteropus pilosus, Pteropus tokudae, Pteropus insularis, Rhinolophus geoffroyi, Rhinolophus willardi, Hipposideros commersonii, Hipposideros nicobarulae, Hipposideros cryptovalorona, Rhinolophus nippon, Rhinolophus mabuensis, Rhinolophus horaceki, Rhinolophus kahuzi, Triaenops menamena, Coelops hirsutus, Paracoelops megalotis

It would be fantastic if someone could do the work mapping between these two groups more explicitly.

As before, please flag any taxon that you find problematic (either because we're not making an exception and you think we should be, or because we are making an exception and you think we shouldn't be).

Also, thanks for bearing with me on process for discussing/updating mammal taxonomy. We were previously using this thread on my personal journal. But now that we have Collection Projects, it seems like it might be more appropriate to continue that thread in a project. I've created a Mammal Taxonomic Working Group project where we can make posts to discuss and relay updates related to Mammal taxonomy. Please follow the project if you want to receive these posts.

Also there's some discussion of transitioning from IUCN Global Mammal Assessment to the ASM list. If anyone wants to help, I think a mapping between IUCN and ASM would be hugely useful to figure out the degree and character of the difference between these taxonomic sources.

Thanks!