Taxonomic Swap 18493 (Guardado el 25/09/2020)

These two names get almost equal usage in California, but they seem synonymous. @noah_siegel tells me this should be the current treatment of this species based on Noordeloos & Antonín (2008). Any objections, @leptonia and @else (or anyone else)?

The paper is also at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228512348_Contribution_to_a_monograph_of_marasmioid_and_collybioid_fungi_in_Europe

See also: https://ppbio.inpa.gov.br/sites/default/files/Oliveira_J_J_S_et_al_2019_Mycological_Progress_0.pdf

Contribution to a monograph of marasm... (Referencia)
Añadido por kueda el diciembre 14, 2016 06:21 TARDE | Comprometido por jameskm el 25 de septiembre de 2020
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@leptonia and @else, does this look right to you?

Publicado por kueda hace más de 7 años

I am actually quite confused about the current status of Gymnopus/Marasmius/Micromphale/Mycetinis.

@else will likely be more informed about it, but I can ask Dennis Desjardin (certainly among the most experienced taxonomists on this group) when I see him later this month.

Publicado por leptonia hace más de 7 años

the paper by Mata et al. 2007 shows that the M. androsaceus group falls within Gymnopus, and that is the present opinion on this group. And yes, Marasmius and Gymnopus quercophilus refer to the same species.

Publicado por else hace más de 7 años

Looks like this has been hanging out for over 3 years? What needs to be done to make this happen and be done?

Publicado por douglassmith hace más de 3 años

A curator needs to click the "Commit" button, but I'm hesitant to do so b/c I don't know anything about mushroom taxonomy and don't know if things have changed in the last three years. If @else or @leptonia think this is still the right move, I'm happy to click the button and suffer the consequences.

Publicado por kueda hace más de 3 años

I regret to inform @kueda @douglassmith @else and myself that things most certainly have changed:
http://www.speciesfungorum.org/Names/SynSpecies.asp?RecordID=828588

Publicado por leptonia hace más de 3 años
Publicado por jameskm hace más de 3 años

@jameskm yes, I think that's the one – also, I think mining http://agaric.us/ would probably be productive to update some of our taxonomy.

Publicado por leptonia hace más de 3 años

Ok, so we should move both these names to: Marasmiellus quercophilus? And when can that happen?

Publicado por douglassmith hace más de 3 años

@douglassmith it's all volunteer run here. I don't like to do single names out of a publication piecemeal (although I'm not strictly above it). In this case (that paper) there's lots of names that should change at the same time.
Thankfully if you use one of the old names, whenever the taxon swap gets committed, you'll be automatically notified with an option to update your observations.

Publicado por leptonia hace más de 3 años

edit: Looks like @jameskm did it already!
Does that mean this one should be deleted outright? It's kind of nice to keep this discussion around if we can just sort of de-stage or nullify it.

Publicado por leptonia hace más de 3 años

I haven't comitted it, just drafted it. We could copy the comments onto something else? Not quite the same, though.

Publicado por jameskm hace más de 3 años

Instead of making a new one you could just edit this one. Or we could add some kind of "cancelled" status to taxon changes that prevents them from being edited or committed.

Publicado por kueda hace más de 3 años

I have never been able to successfully edit a swap into a merge. Could just do two swaps I guess.

Publicado por jameskm hace más de 3 años

Alright, I think I have incorporated that paper as much as I can. There are still a bunch of species in Gymnopus and Marasmiellus that I am not sure are in the right place.

Publicado por jameskm hace más de 3 años

Awesome, thanks very much @jameskm

Publicado por leptonia hace más de 3 años

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