Species Complexes in Asilidae

I'm considering adding a few species complexes to the iNat taxonomy for Asilidae, particularly for North American Laphria and Efferia. Is this something that people would find useful? Does anyone have reservations about unranked taxa?

Which complexes would you like to see added?

iNat guidelines for complexes:

Some discussions about species complexes for reference:

Three complexes added so far:

To find a complex, search for the species name included in the respective link above, and the complex will be one of the two choices.

Publicado el mayo 24, 2019 09:16 TARDE por myelaphus myelaphus


Very useful, instead of Laphria sp. we can narrow it down to more useful ID's. e.g. Laphria aktis/sericea and L. canis/sicula/winnemana..

Publicado por pbedell hace casi 5 años

Go for it, I think it is a good idea.

Publicado por gcsnelling hace casi 5 años

I think it's a good idea too, for photos not backed up by specimens. Another Laphria would be L index/ithypyga.

Publicado por giffbeaton hace casi 5 años

Okay, I've made three new complexes:

The naming is a bit awkward, but I don't think there's much I can do about that.

EDIT: I've fixed the names

Publicado por myelaphus hace casi 5 años

Looks good, how about just removing the first word "complex", having it repeat like that really does not roll off the tongue well.

Publicado por gcsnelling hace casi 5 años

That's what I meant by awkward. The "Complex" prefix is added by iNat, and I have no control over it.

The issue is that, for example, iNat treats "Laphria canis" as an existing name, so I can't use that name for the complex (e.g. Complex Laphria canis).

Publicado por myelaphus hace casi 5 años

Are you sure? I was able to create this: https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/894751-Laphria-canis

Publicado por bouteloua hace casi 5 años

Well that is just plain silly. Good job though.

Publicado por gcsnelling hace casi 5 años

Weird - maybe I was doing it wrong.

Publicado por myelaphus hace casi 5 años

Now someone needs to do this for mushrooms.

Publicado por gcsnelling hace casi 5 años

Ok, I think I fixed the names

Publicado por myelaphus hace casi 5 años

Looks good

Publicado por gcsnelling hace casi 5 años

Diogmites angustipennis / bilobatus / texanus would be another good one.

Publicado por stevecollins hace más de 4 años

I was thinking the same thing. I'll make a new complex for that group in the near future.

Publicado por myelaphus hace más de 4 años

A recent discussion about species complexes on another journal post brought up some points I would like to address here. @tristanmcknight @quaedfliegh @bradmoon @rogue_biologist

Tristan asked whether the computer vision suggestions have incorporated the Laphria species complexes (let's call these Phase 1). Looking at observations of the three complexes posted in July 2021, I would estimate that at least 40-50% of those had an initial CV suggestion for the relevant complex. So it appears that the CV has in fact incorporated our complexes and should do the same for future ones.

Tristan also mentioned his concerns about iNat species complex records be converted to s.s. species when imported into GBIF. This is certainly a data quality issue for GBIF, but personally I don't see this as our responsibility. I prefer to prioritize tools (like the species complex) that make identification more efficient for us on this platform.

I have compiled a list of candidate Phase 2 species complexes based on the discussion mentioned above. I consider this to be a second, broader trial phase to see how these taxa perform before opening the proverbial floodgates on species complexes. Let me know which complexes should be the highest priority to include in this phase. I will create these taxa once I've gotten some feedback on the list below. Also note that with this list we are beginning to stray from the curator guidelines in that many of these complexes are not named explicitly in the literature. If you see that as a problem let me know.

Phase 2
Complex Choerades marginata (dioctriaeformis, femorata, marginata, mouchai)
Complex Diogmites angustipennis (angustipennis, bilobatus)
Complex Efferia aestuans (aestuans, kondratieffi)
Complex Holcocephala abdominalis (abdominalis, fusca)
Complex Machimus chrysitis (chrysitis, chrysitis nigrofemoratus, fortis, subdolus)
Complex Promachus rufipes (hinei, rufipes) [especially useful for purported hybrid observations]
Complex Promachus bastardii (bastardii, dimidiatus, texanis, quadratus)
Complex Stenopogon junceus (cervinus, elongatus, junceus)

Edit: removed D. texanus from Complex Diogmites angustipennis

Publicado por myelaphus hace más de 2 años

Complexes under consideration for Phase 3 and beyond:
Complex Atomosia puella (melanopogon, puella)
Complex Cerotainia macrocera (albipilosa, macrocera)
Complex Choerades fimbriata (castellanii, fimbriata, fulva)
Complex Dasypogon diadema (bacescui, diadema, gerardi, iberus, irinelae, kugleri, magisi, melanopterus, octonotatus, regenstreifi, tsacasi)
Complex Efferia tagax (tagax, neosimilis, incognita, sonorensis, armata)
Complex Efferia zonata (zonata, peralta, vertebrata, fisheri)
Complex Holopogon phaeonotus (guttulus, phaeonotus
Complex Laphria vultur (vultur, asackeni).
Complex Machimus setibarbus (caliginosus, cyanopus, intermedius, setibarbus)
Complex Machimus concinnus (concinnus, nevadensis)
Complex Machimus notatus (notatus, virginicus)
Complex Proctacanthus rufus (hinei, rufus)
Complex Promachus aldrichii (aldrichii, nigrialbus)
Complex Promachus giganteus (giganteus, magnus, minisculus)
Complex Stichopogon trifasciatus (trifasciatus, coquilletti, venturiensis)

Publicado por myelaphus hace más de 2 años

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