From GoBotany and Michigan Flora:
Sambucus nigra (sensu stricto) previously known as S. nigra subsp. nigra |
Sambucus canadensis previously known as S. nigra subsp. canadensis |
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Larger, can be a small tree up to 10 m tall | Smaller, shrub up to 2.5 m tall |
Branchlets with abundant lenticels | Branchlets with sparse lenticels |
3-7 leaflets, usually 5 | 5-11 leaflets, usually 7 |
Petals yellow-white, carpels usually with 3 stigmas (sometimes 4) | Petals white, carpels with 4 stigmas (sometimes 3 or 5) |
Pendulous fruiting clusters | More-or-less erect fruiting clusters |
Drupe dingy purple, turning black, 6-8 mm wide | Drupe bright red, turning purple-black, 4-5 mm wide |
(also a test of the new table format)
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Very nice - thank you. I assume that they may hybridize, no?
So do we still only have canadensis in the Chicago area, or do we have to reexamine everything?
Sambucus nigra sensu stricto has apparently been reported in a few US states and Ontario, but not Illinois. I haven't really tried applying these characteristics myself yet to our local flora.
A nice summary in Applequist 2015, "A Brief Review of Recent Controversies in the Taxonomy and Nomenclature of Sambucus nigra sensu lato", in which:
I don't know exactly what/who Plants of the World Online is basing their taxonomy on in recognizing S. canadensis as a species, but also look at this thing o_o https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/1231608
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